Comments on: Flaws Found in Windows Live Writer! http://devilsworkshop.org/flaws-found-in-windows-live-writer/ Sat, 11 Feb 2012 09:22:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Joe Cheng [MSFT] http://devilsworkshop.org/flaws-found-in-windows-live-writer/#comment-87920 Joe Cheng [MSFT] Sat, 21 Feb 2009 17:14:10 +0000 http://www.devilsworkshop.org/flaws-found-in-windows-live-writer/#comment-87920 Chris, hmmm, I've never heard of an incompatibility, though I don't know that we do compat testing with versions of Office that are that old. It almost certainly isn't WLW though, as the changes we make to your system are very simple and self-contained. What other WL applications have you installed? Have you tried using your Office 2000 disc to do a Repair? (Assuming we even had that option in 2000) You can e-mail me at joe.cheng *AT* microsoft.com to follow up if you want. Thanks. Chris, hmmm, I’ve never heard of an incompatibility, though I don’t know that we do compat testing with versions of Office that are that old. It almost certainly isn’t WLW though, as the changes we make to your system are very simple and self-contained.

What other WL applications have you installed?

Have you tried using your Office 2000 disc to do a Repair? (Assuming we even had that option in 2000)

You can e-mail me at joe.cheng *AT* microsoft.com to follow up if you want. Thanks.

]]> By: Chris http://devilsworkshop.org/flaws-found-in-windows-live-writer/#comment-87887 Chris Sat, 21 Feb 2009 00:36:39 +0000 http://www.devilsworkshop.org/flaws-found-in-windows-live-writer/#comment-87887 Hi! WLW guys... I have a question. Well, more of a problem really. Every time I update my WL suite (I have IE 8 RC1, so I have to update it or I get an annoying message about disabled add-ons), it causes major problems with Word, to the point that Word crashes on opening. I have Word 2000, so I was wondering if there are some kind of incompatibility issues between Word 2000 & WLW? Or another one of the WL programs? I just picked WLW because it seemed the most related to Word & so, the most likely to cause some kind of conflict. I've been trying to solve this problem for about 4 hours, now, & I'm getting to the point of wanting to tear my hair out. Thanks for any insight you can provide! Hi! WLW guys… I have a question. Well, more of a problem really. Every time I update my WL suite (I have IE 8 RC1, so I have to update it or I get an annoying message about disabled add-ons), it causes major problems with Word, to the point that Word crashes on opening. I have Word 2000, so I was wondering if there are some kind of incompatibility issues between Word 2000 & WLW? Or another one of the WL programs? I just picked WLW because it seemed the most related to Word & so, the most likely to cause some kind of conflict.
I’ve been trying to solve this problem for about 4 hours, now, & I’m getting to the point of wanting to tear my hair out.
Thanks for any insight you can provide!

]]> By: Deepak Jain http://devilsworkshop.org/flaws-found-in-windows-live-writer/#comment-87349 Deepak Jain Tue, 17 Feb 2009 18:51:51 +0000 http://www.devilsworkshop.org/flaws-found-in-windows-live-writer/#comment-87349 @Rahul: $500?? :P Then you guys have got a reason to use Windows on your Mac pcs :D @Rahul:
$500?? :P

Then you guys have got a reason to use Windows on your Mac pcs :D

]]> By: Rahul Bansal http://devilsworkshop.org/flaws-found-in-windows-live-writer/#comment-86658 Rahul Bansal Thu, 12 Feb 2009 19:08:13 +0000 http://www.devilsworkshop.org/flaws-found-in-windows-live-writer/#comment-86658 <strong>@Joe</strong> Thanks again Joe. :-) I asked just out of curiosity. But considering many professional bloggers use Mac and like WLW, just try putting a suggestion. I personally won't mind paying something like $500 for WLW on Mac! Because its only WLW, one need to pay for Windows XP and VMware Fusion. ;-) Also with WLW, I can blog atleast 2-3 times more. If possible, try passing a suggestion. Microsoft already have many products ported on Mac. @Joe
Thanks again Joe. :-)
I asked just out of curiosity.
But considering many professional bloggers use Mac and like WLW, just try putting a suggestion.
I personally won’t mind paying something like $500 for WLW on Mac! Because its only WLW, one need to pay for Windows XP and VMware Fusion. ;-)
Also with WLW, I can blog atleast 2-3 times more.
If possible, try passing a suggestion.
Microsoft already have many products ported on Mac.

]]> By: Joe Cheng [MSFT] http://devilsworkshop.org/flaws-found-in-windows-live-writer/#comment-86449 Joe Cheng [MSFT] Wed, 11 Feb 2009 05:35:13 +0000 http://www.devilsworkshop.org/flaws-found-in-windows-live-writer/#comment-86449 @Rahul, sorry, no plans for WLW for Mac at the moment. While we do get a lot of requests for it, it's not a great fit for the strategy of the division we belong to (Windows & Windows Live). @Rahul, sorry, no plans for WLW for Mac at the moment. While we do get a lot of requests for it, it’s not a great fit for the strategy of the division we belong to (Windows & Windows Live).

]]> By: Rahul Bansal http://devilsworkshop.org/flaws-found-in-windows-live-writer/#comment-85312 Rahul Bansal Wed, 04 Feb 2009 20:16:07 +0000 http://www.devilsworkshop.org/flaws-found-in-windows-live-writer/#comment-85312 <strong>@Joe</strong> Thank you very much for your answer. I am really shocked to acknowledge that I never explored <strong>Tools >> Options</strong> option in a year. :-( I have now enabled not only auto-save but word-count, reminder on missing categories & tags, forcing spell check before publishing and many other options. Regarding auto-save option, I really think it wasn't there last year. Anyway it was my fault. Thanks for your valuable feedback. Wanted to ask you something off-topic if its fine with you... Does Microsoft have any plan for releasing WLW for Mac? I am a Mac user and WLW is the only thing that force me to go through pain of using bulky virtual machine for blogging. :-( I guess most Mac bloggers will be more than happy to pay for it. I already paid for Ecto on Mac but it is not even close to WLW. <strong>@Hamid</strong> Glad to know your issue is solved. Personally I have tested more than 20 different desktop blogging clients on Mac, Windows, Linux, Java-based, Adobe-air based. WLW generates best markup. In fact, WLW generates better markup for images if compared with Wordpress itself. Wordpress add many unwanted class values to image tag which hardly any theme designer utilizes. @Joe
Thank you very much for your answer. I am really shocked to acknowledge that I never explored Tools >> Options option in a year. :-(
I have now enabled not only auto-save but word-count, reminder on missing categories & tags, forcing spell check before publishing and many other options.
Regarding auto-save option, I really think it wasn’t there last year.
Anyway it was my fault. Thanks for your valuable feedback.

Wanted to ask you something off-topic if its fine with you…
Does Microsoft have any plan for releasing WLW for Mac? I am a Mac user and WLW is the only thing that force me to go through pain of using bulky virtual machine for blogging. :-(
I guess most Mac bloggers will be more than happy to pay for it. I already paid for Ecto on Mac but it is not even close to WLW.

@Hamid
Glad to know your issue is solved.
Personally I have tested more than 20 different desktop blogging clients on Mac, Windows, Linux, Java-based, Adobe-air based. WLW generates best markup. In fact, WLW generates better markup for images if compared with WordPress itself. WordPress add many unwanted class values to image tag which hardly any theme designer utilizes.

]]> By: Hamid http://devilsworkshop.org/flaws-found-in-windows-live-writer/#comment-84989 Hamid Tue, 03 Feb 2009 05:31:30 +0000 http://www.devilsworkshop.org/flaws-found-in-windows-live-writer/#comment-84989 @Joe Thank you for the comments. It was very nice talking to you. @Joe Thank you for the comments. It was very nice talking to you.

]]> By: Joe Cheng [MSFT] http://devilsworkshop.org/flaws-found-in-windows-live-writer/#comment-84938 Joe Cheng [MSFT] Mon, 02 Feb 2009 17:07:47 +0000 http://www.devilsworkshop.org/flaws-found-in-windows-live-writer/#comment-84938 @Hamid Oh, you're validating on XHTML Strict, that's not something we aspire to currently. If you validate on XHTML Transitional for that page, you'll get two errors, both of which come from your theme. The problem we encountered with XHTML Strict is it deprecates some common tags and attributes that can only be replaced by JavaScript or CSS, both of which may get stripped by blog platforms for security reasons. I didn't see anything around images and videos in those validation results, I'd be interested if you have another post that could demonstrate those problems. Thanks! @Hamid Oh, you’re validating on XHTML Strict, that’s not something we aspire to currently. If you validate on XHTML Transitional for that page, you’ll get two errors, both of which come from your theme.

The problem we encountered with XHTML Strict is it deprecates some common tags and attributes that can only be replaced by JavaScript or CSS, both of which may get stripped by blog platforms for security reasons.

I didn’t see anything around images and videos in those validation results, I’d be interested if you have another post that could demonstrate those problems. Thanks!

]]> By: Hamid http://devilsworkshop.org/flaws-found-in-windows-live-writer/#comment-84887 Hamid Mon, 02 Feb 2009 08:02:47 +0000 http://www.devilsworkshop.org/flaws-found-in-windows-live-writer/#comment-84887 @Joe Thats I know and as far as text goes WLW outputs valid XHTML by default but give problems with images and videos. Check http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thelifedigital.com%2Fhow-to-access-linux-ext2-ext3-partitions-in-windows%2F&charset=(detect+automatically)&doctype=Inline&group=0 @Joe Thats I know and as far as text goes WLW outputs valid XHTML by default but give problems with images and videos.

Check http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thelifedigital.com%2Fhow-to-access-linux-ext2-ext3-partitions-in-windows%2F&charset=(detect+automatically)&doctype=Inline&group=0

]]> By: Joe Cheng [MSFT] http://devilsworkshop.org/flaws-found-in-windows-live-writer/#comment-84880 Joe Cheng [MSFT] Mon, 02 Feb 2009 06:53:15 +0000 http://www.devilsworkshop.org/flaws-found-in-windows-live-writer/#comment-84880 @Rahul, @Gautam: There's an auto-save feature, you have to enable it under Tools | Options. We disable it by default because it works similar to how Blogger or Gmail auto-save works, the same as clicking the "Save" button every few minutes. This is different than, say, MS Office and we didn't think desktop users would be used to that behavior. @Hamid, we generally do valid XHTML if either 1) your blog declares an XHTML doctype, or 2) under Blog | Edit Blog Settings | Advanced you select XHTML. Otherwise we do plain HTML. @Rahul, @Gautam: There’s an auto-save feature, you have to enable it under Tools | Options. We disable it by default because it works similar to how Blogger or Gmail auto-save works, the same as clicking the “Save” button every few minutes. This is different than, say, MS Office and we didn’t think desktop users would be used to that behavior.

@Hamid, we generally do valid XHTML if either 1) your blog declares an XHTML doctype, or 2) under Blog | Edit Blog Settings | Advanced you select XHTML. Otherwise we do plain HTML.

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